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It's a dark art...

  • Aug. 6th, 2008 at 1:04 PM
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In the comments to my previous post, a friend (and much respected sempai) said :

Hum, there are beauty too in joice, but it is really harder to make it appear without sounding naive, akward or simplist.
It is simpler to draw beauty out of sadness, nearly all people can do it.
But being a true artist is needed to do the same from happyness. And it is propably easier with painting than with word, because words are ... a little not very well cut to describe happyness.
Do you agree ?


I do not and as I was writing an answer I realized I had a lot to say on the matter XD
Enough to make it a post instead of a comment. Here goes!

First, I don't think so many people can draw beauty out of sadness. I never cease to amaze at how many people I show my poems to seem unable to see any kind of beauty in there at all, and shrug it off with a "it's dark so it can't be good".

Now, as for why it is easier to make art in periods of sadness than in periods of happiness, I have my own theory and it goes as follows.
  • Dark emotions are much more overwhelming than light ones. I know it sounds pessimistic, but I don't care. Countless times I saw my happiness annihilited by little bad things, countless times I attempted vainly to rejoice at little good things when the overall situation was bad.
  • Dark emotions are more easily shared than light ones. Think about two words : compassion and jealousy. Knowing that people you don't like or are indifferent to are happy is unlikely to make you any happier (it isn't even automatic when you love them ^^'), but it is part of humanity to feel sad for people completely unrelated to you.
  • Dark emotions are hard to handle. Artists tend to be highly sensitive people and their creativity sometimes makes their emotions even harder to handle... expressing these emotions is a good way to put them into perspective, plus it's an instinctive urge in many people.
  • Good emotions never last long enough and you may get too busy enjoying them while they're here or worrying about how to protect them to share them.


Finally, words are exactly as fit to describe happiness as they are to describe sadness and that is : not much. It draws on talent more than on creativity to fit words to emotions, situations, etc... but that's the same with every art. Most people are barely able to draw something that can be recognized, let alone carry a whole dimension of emotions to it. Now why would manipulating words be any different than manipulating pencils ? I think it is the same.

Phew, it really turned way too long for a comment XD

On to something completely different : I said good-bye to EB a few hours ago. I won't see her again for years to come, but I know I will someday, so I won't cry (anymore ^^').

Take care, EB.

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[info]darkdoshi wrote:
Aug. 6th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
Sure there is beauty in joy. However I disagree with Lyr too ^^'

Everyone experiences joy and sadness. But for me the second is more difficult to express. Compared to Atarun, only a few people are "authorized" to read my poems, because I think (maybe I'm wrong but I don't care) most of people wouldn't understand what I wanted to tell. The wounds I have in my heart, the darkness I may live in are mine and only mine. Others have theirs too, but are not the same as me, because we are all different.
I wouldn't want to make people depressed by reading my "creations" if they were happy first (I sometimes did it... :/). I'd rather share my happiness than my dark side.

"Do what I say, not what I do" I shouldn't focus so blindly on my dark emotions, but it may be the Human nature to keep unsatisfied most of the time.
Neverheless, I have some admiration for people who can go through all this.

I won't say more as I think in the same way as Atarun and because to talk about myself is one of the things I hate at most, and I said too much...
[info]atarun wrote:
Aug. 7th, 2008 12:31 am (UTC)
I must say it's a problem I got many times... I may be weird, pessimistic, dark, crazy, bipolar disordered or who knows, but still : my definition of hope is not the common one.
I see beauty and hope in many of my poems that most readers stamped "100% darkness"...
I gave up on sharing my emotions when I had written a poem to motivate myself (hey, I was young and it wasn't a poster, OK ?) that basically said it's sad that good moments never last but hey, it's only fair, cause bad moments end too! Yeah!!
...No reader saw it was a happy poem. No one understood the message. T_T
Since then, I just don't care about interpretation anymore : everyone is free to find what they want in my poems, as long as they don't declare it's the only thing there or that they understand me through it or something, which is stupid, since though I might be a good clue to my poems, my poems definitely are no help to understand me.
[info]elmiree wrote:
Aug. 6th, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Good emotions never last long enough and you may get too busy enjoying them while they're here or worrying about how to protect them to share them.

I heartily agree on this point :-)
When someone's been dwelling on their misery for hours, it seems rather sensible to me than one would use art as both a way to express their pain and also as a means of escape (or so my old stack of sketches says XD).

I'd certainly have so much more to say on the topic, but time flies so fast, I'll have to come back later to elaborate more (my apologies for this half-finished comment)...

Edited at 2008-08-06 10:38 pm (UTC)
[info]atarun wrote:
Aug. 7th, 2008 12:33 am (UTC)
It's fine :)
Come back as many times as you want. ;)
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